The Moore-McCormack's SS Brasil and SS Argentina

What would the EA experience be if it didn't include at least some passing reference to the Moore-McCormack Liners, the SS Brasil and the SS Argentina? Particularly since our own Virginia O'Donnell's ('65) father almost owned them, and since they were found on the back of almost every National Geographic from the 1950's through the 1970's?

Take a trip back in time onboard the S.S. Argentina. See her as the S.S. Enchanted Isle, last known to be laid up in Violet, Louisiana, courtesy of Ginger Quering Casey and Bill Vinson, who put together this very nice tribute to the ship! Watch for her ultimate fate. All aboard!!! The site is will continue to grow, but it is already a new jewel on the EA Web! Thanks, Ginger and Bill!

Scroll to the bottom of the page to write your tales of adventures on the high seas on either the Delta Line or the Moore-McCormack liners. Help preserve a bit of the history of these fine ships! We are actively searching for your photos, memorabilia, and your accounts of onboard adventures! More on the hard to find Delta ships, the Del Sud, Del Norte, and Del Mar is coming. Note: Brian Paren's EA Yearbook web site has a nice post card of the Delta ships (I just scored one off EBay). That card is found on a couple of sites online, and it is the only real photo out there. Anyone with additional Delta Line materials should scan them and email them to us!

Sadly, when we last saw Virginia at EA in 1987 at the 50th Anniversary (see reunion photos), she couldn't tell us anything about the current whereabouts of the SS Brasil and the S.S. Argentina (take a virtual tour today). She merely said, "they were sold." Well, we checked around and found them out there in cyberspace. More of what we found is written below. We know the Moore-Mack ships and the Delta ships (Del Sud, Del Norte, and Del Mar) were the source of many EA gatherings, parties, despedidas, and homeward bound adventures. We'd like to print your ship stories here. Delta Line stories are very welcome, too (the Stirlings returned to New Orleans on the Del Mar in 1965). Once I locate the Delta Line ships, I'll create another page. [Note: since creating this page, I learned the Delta Line ships Del Mar, Del Sud, and the Del Norte were broken up for scrap. Hence, the need for this site.] Follow the links to the ships today! Book a cruise and mata some saudades. Maybe the SS Argentina and the SS Brasil can be saved as timeshares!?

The sister ships SS Brasil and SS Argentina (fact sheet) were built by Ingall shipbuilders in the United States in 1958. The SS Brasil was built first and she was launched on September 4, 1958. Three months later, the SS Argentina was launched on December 9, 1958. These two luxury liners were the last liners to be built in the United States. They sailed from New York to South America on 14 day cruises.

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The SS Brasil was bought by Holland America in 1971 and sailed for at least 5 other cruise lines before becoming the flagship of World Explorer Cruises. The SS Argentina was also bought by Holland America in 1971 and sailed for at least 4 other cruise lines before becoming the flagship of Commodore Cruise Line. They were the choice means of returning from Rio to the United States. They were always fun to visit whenever they were in port, or whenever a friend was leaving town. I saw my first Coca-Cola in a can on board the SS Brasil in 1964! At the time, I remember thinking, "The USA is cool!" Now I can't stand Coke in a can! "Garrafeiro!!!"

Commodore renamed the SS Argentina the Enchanted Isle. She awaits word of her fate. She can be seen online here. Thanks, Ginger Quering, for tracking her down for us. More to come.

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SS Argentina as the Enchanted Isle
- Commodore Cruise's Flagship

Please add your onboard adventures on either the Delta Line or Moore-McCormack ships in the white box below. We would all love to hear about despedidas, voyages to and from Rio, etc. Note: Accounts of voyages onboard the original S.S. Brazil and S.S. Argentina (through 1958) are very welcome, too. The same is true for the Delta Line ships.

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We learned at the Coral Gables reunion that the S.S. Argentina, sister ship of the S.S. Brasil, is soon to be towed to Asia or India where she may be cut up for scrap. Apparently, the highest bid for her at auction was a mere 2.5 million dollars. We'd like to read about S.S. Argentina adventures on these pages before she slips for all time into history. Bruce Stirling

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I was very glad to find some information about Moore-McCormack and Delta Lines companies where I had the opportunity to start my working life, and where I spent 11 years, and my father over 25 years. Have you any photos of their cargo vessels? Thanks, Noslen Lopes Botelho noslen.ssz@excelsantos.com.br

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Ginger Quering is working on a labor of love right now regarding the S.S. Argentina. She recently visited the ship, now name the Enchanted Isle, and we'll soon receive her materials for publication on this site (follow link to her web site!). We can hardly wait. I've collected photos of the ships and will be placing them online soon. [UPDATE: Bill Vinson and Ginger Quering did us all one better - they created their own tribute to the ship online. Follow the link above to go aboard!] Bruce Stirling

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My sister was the RN on the Argentina for a year. She loved the people, ship and experience. I believe at that time they had 1st, 2nd and 3rd class . Of course the Dr., nurse, and performers went 1st class. I have some very colorful menus if you would want to add to your collection-- VRTTS @WEBTV.com New Jersey.

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I remember the first trip down to Rio on the old SS Brazil in 1956. I was a very active five year old and started to become independent. I often investigated the ship on my own and actually got lost. All I remember is being found by one of the ship's purcers, "Pursey". I don't know if that truly was his name but we called him that for as long as I can remember. We found him on subsequent trips on the SS Argentina. On another occasion, same trip, Mom and Dad found me in the middle of a circle of people dancing to carnival music. I don't believe I was ever lost...Mom and Dad just misplaced me! On the SS Argentina in 1962 during a "talent" show my sister Ginger danced the Charleston and one of the ship's entertainers jumped out onto the dance floor and did the Charleston right along with her. There was another couple who befriended Mom and Dad. We called the guy "Porpoise" because he would swim late at night and make porpoise sounds. Dad, who was the Keystone Cop, brought him up in front of King Neptune for judgement when we crossed the equator. So many good memories, good food, and good friends! Linda F. Quering Class of 1969

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Ellen Bond (along with her younger sister, Nancy), Mike Behner and I returned to New Orleans via the Delta Line following our graduation from EA in 1962. I have two vivid memories of the trip. 1. We had a larcenous steward who stored bar supplies in our dresser in exchange for our free use of the same, and 2. The stop at the island of Curacao was a delightful melange of cultures, languages, architectures and colors. Rick Carriker EA62

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The SS Brasil built in 1958? I traveled on it, from Rio to Trinidad, in 1953 or thereabouts. Was there an earlier ship with the same name? It certainly was Moore McCormack. If you can clear this up, email me at sebastian@interwords.co.uk

[Webmaster's note: The first Moore-McCormack ship named the S.S. Brazil (with a "z") was the ship you traveled on. In 1958 the second ship, S.S. Brasil (with an "s") arrived.] Look for more photos in the future of both ships.]

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During the late 1960's I sailed as a photographer mostly on the Argentina and occasionally on the Brazil. I was a young man just starting adult life and could not have been more fortunate than to have begun with such an exciting beginning. The stories associated with both passengers and crew would make an interesting book.-- A correction to the comment of Aug.10 Both the Argentina & Brazil were first class only ships.

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This isn't an adventure as such. A friend of mine bought a small item at a garage sale - we think it is a cigar lighter from one of the Moore-McCormack ships. It is a medievel knight with a sword. It has Moore-McCormack Lines written on the base and on the back of the knight are some numbers and what looks like oriental script above the numbers. Is there anyone out there that can shed some light on this item. Thanks jbonnar@sympatico.ca

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MY NAME IS BRIAN PARKS AND I RODE HOME THE SS BRASIL IN SUMMER 1967 AND CELEBRATED BY 8TH, BIRTHDAY (7-26-67) ON BOARD. I STILL HAVE AN INFLATABLE PILLOW FROM THE VOYAGE. IT'S A WEEK I'LL NEVER FORGET. MY E MAIL IS BPARKS@MAGNOLIA-COMPANIES.COM ANDF OR 1-888-829-8510 EXT 2532. WE CAME HOME FROM A 2 YEAR TOUR OF RIO. MY FATHER WAS STATE DEPT.

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This is an email I sent to Ginger and the SS Argentina website. Then I found out about your website and thought it would apply also. My name is Diane Matlock. My older brother Dan and I attended Escola Americana from 1956-1958. We arrived and departed Brasil on the SS Argentina. The 1958 return to the states was the second to the last voyage of the original SS Argentina. From the appearance of the Enchanted Isle on your website, I believe the SS Argentina is the replacement to the original. For those of us who rode the original, the replacement was a pale comparison. I think that is partly due to the fact that during WWII, the SS Argentina was used as a hospital or troop ship, so it had a mysterious history for small children. My chief memory of the voyage to Brasil in 1956 (I was six) was losing my mother. I was somewhat afraid to be on such a huge ship, and I think I was pretty clingy. Mom had sent me off to do something, and when I returned, she wasn't where I left her. I was frantic. Since I was afraid of falling overboard myself (wouldn't go near the railing) I naturally was afraid that in fact that is what had happened to her. Eventually I discovered her sitting on a bench chatting with Martie McMurray (Jim was part of the Naval Mission in Rio, and there was a boy, Bill, and a teenage daughter who introduced me to Elvis Presley). The bench was kind of hidden between two pillars next to the main staircase, and I had probably been near it a number of times before I actually found Mom. I also remember the afternoon consume' during tea time, and the luscious deck buffet lunches. On the return voyage, the strongest impression was that because it was the end of May, the ship was loaded with kids, especially recent graduates of Escola Americana (Judy something that used to come down and tuck my eleven year old brother in at night while Mom ate dinner, and Benjy Batista was my own eight year old crush). There were also lots of kids my own age that I don't remember from Escola Americana--Johnny Forester and Johnny Marshon (sp?) in particular. Because the Argentina was being replaced, when something broke, George Bligh, who I believe was 2nd Officer or somesuch, and really looked out for our family going and coming because Dad wasn't with us, used to take broken and bent items and just chuck them over the side! I remember a bent fork that he noticed on the luncheon buffet table-over the side. Deck chair collapsed, over the side. He was really cool and I adored him. One further note. My grandfather died in 1957 while we were living in Rio. Dad flew home and brought my grandmother down to stay with us. It was the best thing he could have done because while she still grieved over my grandfather, she was fascinated by the flora and fauna. She made copious notes which I believe I have somewhere. Mama left Rio to return to the states after a 7 months stay. It was one of the Delta ships, I THINK Del Sud. She was treated very well, as an elderly widow traveling alone. I remember the wonderful Bon Voyage party on board before she sailed. We had become friends with many in the Russian colony. For some reason, they also "adopted" Mama, probably because most of them had left their own mothers and grandmothers behind when they came to Brasil. They all came to the party on the ship, to say goodbye and wish her a good voyage. It meant a lot to her. I haven't been able to bring myself to go on one of the modern day cruises. Too slick and antiseptic. Give me the worn wooden decks and the many layers of paint over metal anyday. Dan now lives on a 46 ft wooden fishing boat and eschews fiberglass vessels ("They are not REAL boats!").

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My name is Ross Mitchell, my father was Bill Mitchell who worked in the office for Moore Mack for most growing up years. I went to sea on the Argentina and have many fine memories of all the people who worked at what I feel was one one the United States best shipping lines. I still love the old company and think of it and my father as one in the same.

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I have an original photo of the S.S. Del Norte, taken by a seaman aboard another ship, when the two ships were together in port in Santos, Brazil in 1940... legaleze2002@(no spam)yahoo.com... Obviously, take the no spam out of the address to write and thanks, John

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My great aunt, Lulu Moore, was a passenger on the S.S. Argentina when it set sail from the Port of New York July 10, 1952. She documented this fabulous 20 day cruise to South America in a travel journal. I hold this journal close to my heart. I have been in the travel industry for 25 years and currently instruct those who want to enter the travel industry. When It's time to learn about cruises, I pull out the travel journal and tell my students how it used to be. Annie annie.travelacademy@wspan.com

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Updated news on S.S. Argentina: After driving all night (11 hours) on Friday, October 25, to Violet, Louisiana, Bill and I were invited on board by the Captain and took another tour of the ship and then watched her leave the U.S., under her own power, for the final time. Behind our tears, I could see she looked sleek, proud, and held her bow up high. We took loads of photos and videotape along with Deputy Sheriff Bret Bowen and his wife, Sherrie. We will insert them into our site in about two weeks along with the full story of that day. For continuing information on this and to see photos of her leaving, please check our website, "Welcome Aboard the S.S. Argentina," at http://namerican1.home.att.net -- Ginger Quering Casey (Class of 1968) and Bill G. Vinson.

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I just want to say that I sailed on the SS Brazil in 1956, so I think your dates must be wrong on the launch. My father was a foreign service officer and the whole family sailed with him to a posting in BA, economic officer of the US Embassy. It was right before my highschool graduation, which I missed, in order to go on the trip. I believe we left NY City on the first of June. IN any case, I know I graduated in 1956, know that was when my father went to BA, so I know the date was 1956. HOpe this is of help to you. Sincerely, Ann Cale

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This message is to Ann Cale. Ann, you are right about traveling on the S.S. Brazil, but you were traveling on the "old" S.S. Brazil that was launched in 1928. Bruce Stirling's site refers to the new ships launched in 1958 that replaced the originals launched in 1928. Our family traveled on the "old" S.S. Brazil leaving New York on August 30, 1956, to move down to Brasil. In June 1956, the time you traveled, the S.S. Brasil (the new one launched in September 1958) was just having her keel laid and we know you didn't travel in just a keel. The new ship, spelled her name with an "s" - S.S. Brasil. The "new" S.S. Argentina was launched three months later in December 1958. Bill and I are going to visit the S.S. Brasil, n/k/a Universe Explorer after the Fall 2003 season in order to take photos, and tonight we are adding a video streamer of the Enchanted Isle, f/k/a S.S. Argentina (launched in December 1958) to our site so people can view her for the last time as she leaves for the breakers. If you visit our site, it may jog some memories as to how the S.S. Brazil looked in 1956. On our menu, choose "Memories 1956" on our website: www.moore-mccormack-lines.com Ginger Q. Casey and Bill Vinson

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Hello, great website! I am a Merchant Mariner sailing primarily aboard ships in the much less glamorous tanker trades. My Uncle sailed for Delta Lines for his entire career until Delta's demise in 1985 (Chief Electrician). I have many Delta Line photos and memorabilia. Primarily from the S.S. Del Brasil, S.S. Delta Mar (Lash Ship) and S.S. Delta Norte (Lash Vessel also). Please contact me at wesyna@aol.com

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Hi, I found a sterling silver ashtray that was made in 1958 to commemorate the launching of the SS ARGENTINA. If you would like a picture of it for your archives please let me know. thanks, Louis

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I boarded the SS Brasil at Santos in July 1961, after graduating as a native American from EGSP Sao Paulo, sailing to New York. It was eleven days of Americana joy after 3 years of Brasileiro joy. In those days Levi's, homogenized milk and Dairy Queens were distant joys given up by one residing in exotic Brazil. They came back to glorious life on the SS Brasil. I was hoping today to find her again somewhere on the internet. Alas, she seems to be gone forever. Richard Bartlett richardb@yogananda-srf.org

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During WWII My father was in the US Navy and was transported on S.S. Del Brasil, crossing the equator on June 16, 1943. Any information about this ship would be greatly appreciated. Please reply to blewett@stlawu.edu

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Hello!!! I cant believe I have found a reference to the Moore-McCormick ships on which I sailed in my childhood so many years ago!!!! I first sailed on SS Brazil from Buenos Aires to New York departing about April 18, 1941 arriving about May 4, 1941. In those days, before the US was in the war, the ships sailed with huge floodlit US flags painted on the sides to keep them from being torpedoed by German U-boats. I sailed back to Argentina aboard SS Uruguay leaving NYC about September 30, 1941 and arriving back in BA about October, 17, 1941. When my family and I left Argentina to return permanently to the US, we did so on SS Uruguay leaving BA on Christmas Eve, 1948 and arriving in NYC on the morning of January 12, 1949. I cant tell you how much nostalgia I feel every time I think of those trips to and from Argentina. Thanks so much for providing me this opportunity to drop you a note about it. John Connly Walsh Newport, Rhode Island johnconnly@yahoo.com

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I sailed on the Brasil and Argentina in the years 1960-1968, every other year, on home leaves from the United States (NY) to my father's home town of Rio de Janeiro. (He was a Brazilian UN Secretariat executive). We usually sailed "down" in June/early July, and "back up" in August/early September. On the vessels for many years the Cruise Director was Danny Leone. My brother, George, and I used to play violin in the talent shows. Our sister Andrea was a piano player and dancer. Loved those two ships--they were "homes away from home" every other summer when we'd take home leave. Robert Trisciuzzi trisciu@aol.com

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I realized on further reading of this site that the main reason is for re-uniting graduates of the Graded School in Rio. I never went there but I did attend one of the "affiliates"--the American International School in Vienna, Austria, from '72 to June '74. Two of the teachers I knew there, Bob Fumo and Mike Sesich, had been teachers in the late '60's-early '70's at Graded in Sao Paulo. My cousins in Sao Paulo, Leda, Lisa and Dora Sabbagh, studied under them. By the weirdest of coincidences, after the two left Vienna, Bob Fumo and Mike Sesich ended up in NYC, teaching at a private school, Poly Prep, in Brooklyn, where my brother and I had gone to school before we moved to Vienna. A number of cousins in NY who attended Poly ended up with Fumo as a teacher. Anyway, I did visit the Graded in Rio a number of times, and am still friendly with one alumnus, Rex Steed, who now lives in Switzerland. (Rex closer to my sister in age than to me and my brother, would have graduated from Graded Rio in 1977 or 78). Met Rex on another sea voyage, from Europe to Brazil, in summer '72, on Linea C's Eugenio C. Nice vessel, but NOTHING like the Brasil or the Argentina. I should have noted in my earlier e-mail, 19/4, that I'm an alumnus of the "old" Brazil or Argentina--my first voyage was at six months old, in 1956, on Dad's home leave to Brazil. Interestingly, it was on the Moore McCormack's that my parents met. Mom was, in 1952, on her way to Sao Paulo for the wedding of her cousin Zoyi(the aunt of the above-mentioned Lisa, Leda and Dora Sabbagh)and Dad was on home leave from UN HQ in NY. They met on the way down, and Dad discovered what sailing she was returning to NY on. Changed his passage, and "by chance" was on the ship (either Brazil or Argentina, or maybe the Uruguay--there were three sister ships in the old "black" versions) returning to NY. They married about six months later, and my twin (fraternal) and I appeared on the scene April 1956, and made our first ship trip that October. My last trip on Brasil and Argentina was June and August/Sept 1968. Danny Leone was cruise director on the Brasil on the way south, and "appointed" my brother and me to help the asst. cruise directors/youth counselors (a lovely young couple whose names I cannot remember)--I remember Danny pulling us aside as we came on board in NY--he introduced us to his assistants on the promenade deck and said "..use them...they know this ship inside and out..." Favorite spots were (aside from the pools and contiguous deck areas during the day)the Observation Deck and Lounge forward, the movies, and the junior/jukebox area and rec room down by the junior pool. The "counselors" and my brother and I would gather with others in the rec room/breadkfast bouffet area at night, while the adults were in their dinner and ballroom hours--chess, chinese checkers, monopoly, checkers. The equatorial crossings were always fun--woe to those who were making the crossing the first time--spaghetti in bathing suits, other indignities, and a good tossing into the pool. I remember some names from the '68 and '66 sailings--Mark and Susan High--Buenos Aires US Embassy, I think, and the Marescas, of Roslyn Road, Long Island. Giuliana Maresca was my brother George's "first love". Mark and Susan High were great. Susan hung out with my sister Andrea (four years younger than me) and Mark, George and I roamed together all over the vessel. I also remember Cora, a gorgeous Argentine, a year or two older than me, my "first love". I remember standing with her in the early dawn hours (can't remember the exact date) as we entered Rio de Janeiro's Guanabara Bay. Then again as we sailed a day later into Santos. Never saw her after that, but have never forgotten... Many say they wouldn't want to repeat adolescence again--but I'd love to relive being 12 years old, June 1968, and be on SS Brasil again, enroute to Santos. Robert Trisciuzzi, e-mail: trisciu@aol.com

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I got the southward bound and northward bound vessels reversed! SS Brasil was in Scandinavian waters, I think, in June '68. It was the Argentina that took my parents, brother, sister and me to Santos (we were enroute to Guaruja, to stay with the cousins on Mom's side of the family, instead of Rio, where we usually stayed with Dad's relatives). It was the Brasil that we traveled on back to NY, early September '68. Robert Trisciuzzi

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My family traveled on the old SS Argentina during the years we lived in Argentina and were going on home leave. We sailed to New York in 1949 and 1952. We returned to BA on Delta Lines' Del Norte out of New Orleans at the end of home leave in 1949. In 1952 we were transfered to Venezuela and sailed from New York to LaGuaira on Grace Lines' SS Santa Rosa. Years later (1963) I had a summer job on the Del Norte and made a round trip between New Orleans and Buenos Aires. If anyone might have made the same trips, or if anyone worked on the Del Norte in the summer of 1963 under Captain Cooley, I'd love to make contact. E-Mail: lilly8@cox.net (New Orleans).

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After taking 11 trips on the ole Moore Macs,(both old and mew ones!) I will always remember the fun had with the Fathers from Chapel!! I also looked for Purser Ernie Cerf. (That was the brother of Bennet Cerf from What's My Line.)I too have Moore MacCormick ashtrays and menus. You couldn't create a world like that again. My parents' last trip was with the Ziesnesis from E.A. Did I forget to mention, I was born in Sao Paulo, and my dad was with General Motors. Hope to hear from you soon!!!! Muitas Saudades!!!! kickkoedderich@yahoo.com

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Does anyone remember a Captain Charles Reid from the Argentina? bdeak82@hotmail.com

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Thank you for your reply to my question about the S.S. Brazil, 1956, Ginger Casey and Bill Vison. It has taken me time to get back to you because I failed to scroll down and notice that you had replied to my message. I would love to know who was the captian of the S.S. Brazil when we sailed on out of NY Harbor in June of '56. I am trying to write a memoir about my parents and am looking for more details. I will now go to your web sight to take a look at the photo. Thank you again. Ann Cale

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Hello - my mother, Kathleen Baxter Ring, was one of the English war brides who came to American on February 4th, 1946. I kept trying to find information about the SS Argentina and was not successful. Yesterday, in a small local antique shop, I found a menu "Diner D'Adieu" on board the SS Argentina, dated Monday, June 9, 1952. Then I realized the Moore-McCormack line was what I had to check online and find info. on the SS Argentina. I printed out a few photos and gave them to my mother and she was thrilled. She's 80 now. She talked about how stormy the ride over to America was and how she was one of a handful of women who were not seasick! Thank you, Kayann Donaldson (daughter of Kathleen Baxter Ring) kayanndonaldson@msn.com

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Sailed from New York when I was 7 years old on the SS Argentina to Rio in 1959 and back on the SS Brasil in 1961 after my father's 2 year tour at the American Embassy. Started my love of ships and ocean liners that has never ceased. Thanks for this site and I am glad I finally found it. Bill Cope-hapibill@aol.com

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The SS Enchanted Isle has a very special place in my heart. I worked in the gift shops for a few years starting in 1998. I met soo many wonderful crew members and passengers in my stay there. It breaks my heart to hear that she is no more. I worked on 3 more ships after her and none of them were as close to my heart as her. I would love all of the information I could probably get for a scrap book I am making. If anyone knows where I can get some relics from her I would love to know... Bon-Voyage, Sherry Shaw-Bunting SS Enchanted Isle Gift Shop Asst. Manager 1999-2000 sherishaw@yahoo.com

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I was 10 months old in1954 when my parents brought to the us to live and we came on this ship. Of coarse I don't remember anything, but my parents do, and my mom is still alive. I will get her to see this and see if she has anything to say about it. When they got to the U.S., they arrived in New York and they were among the last people to go through Ellis Island. I just can't believe I stumbled on this site. It is a pleasure to have written you.

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In the early 70s my parents June & Joseph Armellino purchased Mr.McCormick's home on Beach Dr. Lloyds Neck, LI New York. It was on 4 acres on the Long Island Sound. Does anyone have any information on Mr. McCormick and his family in this residence? It wasn't a sea adventure,but it certainlly was a land one.It was the most magnificent home,with gardens that I still think about. Sadly it burnt to the ground a few years ago, a Dr. Sands had purchased it from my parents in 1979. The memories are life lasting. Thank You, Joy

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Hi, On the above post I forgot to give my e-mail address. joy@chantry.com Any infomation on Mr. McCormick's home would be greatly appreciated. Also does anyone know where I can find out about his life. Thanks again, Joy

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My father has among his WWII souvenirs a menu booklet for the T.E.S. Uruguay for March 14-24, 1945. The cover has an American flag. My father was in the Army Transportation Corps and served as a pharmacist technician traveling on ships to England and with returning troops and prisoners of war. He died in 1986 before I could ask him more about his experiences. I would like to know more about the Uruguay during war time if anyone has information to share.

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In my message about my father's wartime travel on the Uruguay, I forgot to give my email address if someone would like to contact me. My address is nancyhoagland2@comcast.net

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Does anyone remember Chief Tom Murphy? He was Chief Purser for years aboard the Argentina. I worked with him aboard the Steamer Mississippi Queen from 1989 until 1993... Keith Tinnin ktinnin00@comcast.net

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I read through the comments from various people who were some how or the other were connected with SS NEW ORLEANS ex SS ENCHANTED ISLE ex SS ARGENTINA. I was associated with preparing the vessel for her final voyage to the demolition yard. Now sister vessel SS ENCHANTED CAPRI is being sold for demolition.

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To: Ginger or Whomever: I sailed as a Purser on the Argentina in '59 and '60 & roomed with Bob Melsopp. I also was on it for a day in '89 when it was the Bermuda Star on a cruise, stopping in Newport, R.I. and then traversing the Cape Cod Canal. My brother, who was on board as the pilot, called me and I got a chance to re-visit our sea-going home. Have got a few pictures if you're interested. Ray Neary - rtneary@ATT.net 11-12-04

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In Early ? Sept. 1943 PFC Don Baker went to Europe, on the U S A T "Argentina ". In convoy, across the north Atlantic. A Stormy trip. At times from the fore deck, all that could be seen was huge green waves. On a crest, we could see ships As far as the eye could see, to the north. South- One lone Destroyer escort, whose crew should have been getting Submarine Pay. My Bunk was right by the 5 ft. marker, in the swim pool. I was told there was several thouisand men aboard. 17,000 comes to mind, but you cant always trust 81 year old memories. Don R. Baker, PFC. 8 th Air Force

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the s.s. brazil was the first american ship allowed in russia. this was in 1961.

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The Brasil and Argentina are both on the beaches of India being broken up for scrap.

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Hello Ginger, I would love to know what has happened to the SS Argentina and the SS Brazil. My Uncle, Captain Tom Simmons was Captain of the SS Argentina and the SS Brazil. When I was 8 years old my mom took my sister and I to Barbados and the SS Argentina was anchored there and we went on board and had dinner with our Uncle, I wish I had been older then, so I could have appreciated everything more and able to remember more now. Joe Simmons J.oed@att.net